Today I’ve got the full interview with Ian Urbina where we sit down to have a fascinating conversation about the origins of The Outlaw Ocean Project…and where it goes from here.
Inside the interview, Urbina shares his radical proposition for the future of journalism.
He also reveals important back story about the production of this project.
To read the full review from last week, head over to HERE.
VIDEO HIGHLIGHTS:
[1:15] When and where was the first ship that Ian Urbina reported from [spoiler, not very long ago]
[3:15] Samantha Hodder contrasts Season 1 vs Season 2 of Outlaw Ocean Podcast
[5:17] Urbina reveals how Season 2 was different for him
[8:04] Why wasn’t there more scene tape in Libya episodes? Urbina reveals
[10:46] How Urbina chooses videographers to work with him
[13:25] Nerdy question alert: How was Season 1 narration produced?
[14:56] “Nakedly revealed” how narration was created for Season 2
[16:13] Urbina reveals why he left The NYTimes
[17:32] “Decidedly show journalism” discussed
[18:57] Urbina discusses his new business model
[26:05] “These guys are doing something weird and different, but we should hear them out…” Ian Urbina
[27:15] “ What if you removed money and time from what we do and broaden creative, innovative, and rigor and, and what would that look like?” Ian Urbina
[28:40] “ So inside this radical proposition you have for journalism and transparent, almost open source media, how does the podcast platform and the podcast format fit into that?” Samantha Hodder
[31:50] “ I underestimated the power of podcasts.” Ian Urbina
[33:57] Urbina discusses what’s next for him and his team
[37:15] “Do you eat seafood?” Hodder askes Urbina
[38:13] “What’s in your Go Bag?” Hodder asks Urbina
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