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Hi Arjan, nice to see you in these comments ; )

I love all of the podcasts you refer to here ... Phoebe Judge was my first podcast crush. I saw her do a live show in 2016 or 2017, and that cemented it. Her voice, just awesome! And as for the Bon Apetit Replyall, I lose my appetite around all of that so have chosen to avoid it.

But moreover, while I love these podcasts, they aren’t exactly the kind I want to focus on here in Bingeworthy. They have a lot to teach and share (this gives me an idea for a post...) but to my mind they fall into a different category.

Yes Heavyweight, and Criminal ... and heaps of others...use a similar storytelling method (and they are awesome!)

But I want to shed light here on the ones that serialize the story. The ones that are publishing stories more like books, or movies...except they are for your ear.

And where possible, I’m going to lean away from the giants of industry here to talk about productions that have found the grist to publish without the backing of Spotify, etc....it’s a very tough road to follow and if Bingeworthy can help the industry in some way here, it’s to recognize the hard work of putting together a production, with multiple funding sources done with risk in order to gain reward, that’s the goal.

Not saying I wouldn’t choose one from one of the giants (NYT, Gimlet, NPR, etc) but more saying that I also want to make sure I’m helping listeners find those shows that DON’t have a giant ad spend on them to be heard and appreciated by wider audiences.

This is the model of the Indie Film industry, and it has worked, in time, and with sustained focus, for that industry. I hope these conversations do the same for narrative podcasts.

Please jump in here, anyone, if you have something to add - or subtract - from this line of reasoning.

Thanks for opening this conversation wider Arjan. Pleased to have you in this community!

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Very interesting. Found you via the substack shoutout thread. I like your list. I would like to add, for now, three suggestions to this thread. The first two are from the Gimlet universe; Reply All and Heavyweight. I think Reply All, even though it has now imploded, was a wonderful show that specialised in always finding a unique angle to look at internet culture in the broadest sense. They always found a good story to tell. It was different, and started before they were Reply All and part of Gimlet.

Heavyweight is just insanely sweet and awkward humanity at its most beautiful. Jonathan has a great way of showing us the tender side of humanity. I love this show. Love it.

The third suggestion is Criminal by Phoebe Judge. Her voice alone is worth listening to, but the show's take on the overpopular theme of 'crime' is so unique, and the stories they tell from that angle are so beautiful, she deserves a spot on your list. I like it when a podcast makes you think and reflect and see things from an unusual perspective. That is what she does with the true crime craze.

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